Dear Kulbirji, Vishalji, other scholars,
While looking the diagram presented in 1941 pg 396, I had some other idea about it.
I am doing vastu for many years and had observed its results in jatak's life.
Ancient vastu divides the mandala ( area for a square plot) into four concentric zones. The inner zone is Brahma, the next is Daiva, the third zone is Manushya and the fourth outermost zone is Paisacha.
Its advices to construct the building only in Manushya and Daiva portion.
Paisacha portion i.e. the portion between house and boundary wall all four side should be open for movement, and Brahma (centre) open for air and light.
I hope i am able to convey above properly.
Now,
This very concept is explained by Pandit in Lk pg 396, 1941.
KHANA NUMBER 6=SHUMAL(WALL OF NORTH)
KHANA NUMBER 5=MASHRIQ KEE DEEWAR (WALL OF EAST)
KHANA NUMBER 8=JANOOBI DEEWAR (WALL OF SOUTH)
KHANA NUMBER 11=MAGRIB DEEWAR (WALL OF WEST)
These above houses represent outer boundary of the house and paisacha open zone of the plot. See the diagram two line are drawn and lot of space is shown there.
KHANA NUMBER 9=SEHAN MARKAJ(BUNIYAD OF MAKAAN KUNDLI)
Above Khana represent the Bhrama zone (centre) of house.
KHANA NUMBER 2=SHUMAL MAGRIB(NORTH WEST)
KHANA NUMBER 4=SHUMAL MASHRIQ(NORTH EAST)
KHANA NUMBER 1=MASHRIQ(EAST TOWARDS NORTHERN SIDE)
KHANA NUMBER 12=JANOOB MASHRIQ(SOUTH EAST)
KHANA NUMBER 2=SHUMAL MAGRIB(NORTH WEST)
KHANA NUMBER 3=JANOOB (SOUTH TOWARDS WESTERN SIDE)
KHANA NUMBER7=JANOOB MAGRIB(SOUTH WEST)
KHANA NUMBER 10=MAGRIB(WEST TOWARDS NORTHERN SIDE)
These above Khannas says about the construction part of the building. (Daiva and Manushya zone)
This type of construction you will find in all old haveli's and commonly in old houses. In old Jaipur, which is build by kings can be seen here.
The only thing i want to know why pujya pandit has left one part in south adjoining khana number 3 (south towards east).? I will like LK scholars to clear it.
I have just share my understanding over this subject, you are welcome to accept or ignore it.
Thankyou
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Dear Goel ji;
Khanna no 8 has been given a special place in Lal Kitab.
Only house to have retrospect.
House no 12 links to roof side also; House no. 3 Gateway for exit.
The portion under consideration comes between House no. 12; 3 and 8.
Regards
Kulbir Bains
Wednesday, September 22, 2010
Friday, January 22, 2010
LK Grammar : Aayu Chakra
Date 5th sep 2008 : 1.07 am
Respected Priyaji Sir,
The dasa sequence of 36yrs cycle (2nd one) is quite logical as per LK principles.
It starts from Index finger (jupiter finger),
Aries : 1-3 years
Taurus : 4-6
Gemini : 7-9
than middle finger (saturn),
Capri : 10-12
Aqua : 13-15
Pisces : 16-18
than ring (sun) finger
Cancer : 19-21
Leo : 22-24
Virgo : 25-27
than pinky (mercury) finger.
Libra : 28-30
Scorpio : 31-33
Sagg : 34-36
I think three years are alloted for each rashi to accumulate the result of three phalanges (spiritual, mental, physical).
* * * * * *
The dasa cycle of 35 yrs is unique to Lal-Kitab.
It does NOT have any similar match with traditional astrology.
In traditional astrology, maturity cycle of planets is described below.
Till 16 years of age child is under the supervision of elders.
Four years each of Mother, Father, Guru & Society.
The further cycle is :
Jupiter :16-22: (completes education)
Sun :22-24 (takes independent decision)
Moon :24-25 (understands socialism)
Venus :25-28 (understand marriage and family life)
Mars :28-32 (competes for livelihood)
Mercury :32-36 (Establish himself in 'give take' policy of society)
Saturn :36-42 (Hard work for second rise in society)
Rahu :42-48 (Diplomatic understanding)
Ketu :48-54. (makes some image in society)
This is just my view to look at dasa cycle.
Thanks and regards,
Vijay Goel.
Respected Vijay ji,
Simply superb !
Thak you so much for your input.
Regards,
Varun Trivedi
Respected Priyaji Sir,
The dasa sequence of 36yrs cycle (2nd one) is quite logical as per LK principles.
It starts from Index finger (jupiter finger),
Aries : 1-3 years
Taurus : 4-6
Gemini : 7-9
than middle finger (saturn),
Capri : 10-12
Aqua : 13-15
Pisces : 16-18
than ring (sun) finger
Cancer : 19-21
Leo : 22-24
Virgo : 25-27
than pinky (mercury) finger.
Libra : 28-30
Scorpio : 31-33
Sagg : 34-36
I think three years are alloted for each rashi to accumulate the result of three phalanges (spiritual, mental, physical).
* * * * * *
The dasa cycle of 35 yrs is unique to Lal-Kitab.
It does NOT have any similar match with traditional astrology.
In traditional astrology, maturity cycle of planets is described below.
Till 16 years of age child is under the supervision of elders.
Four years each of Mother, Father, Guru & Society.
The further cycle is :
Jupiter :16-22: (completes education)
Sun :22-24 (takes independent decision)
Moon :24-25 (understands socialism)
Venus :25-28 (understand marriage and family life)
Mars :28-32 (competes for livelihood)
Mercury :32-36 (Establish himself in 'give take' policy of society)
Saturn :36-42 (Hard work for second rise in society)
Rahu :42-48 (Diplomatic understanding)
Ketu :48-54. (makes some image in society)
This is just my view to look at dasa cycle.
Thanks and regards,
Vijay Goel.
Respected Vijay ji,
Simply superb !
Thak you so much for your input.
Regards,
Varun Trivedi
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Ketu In 6th House : Lal Kitab
Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 3:57 PM
Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,
Namaskar,
//Ketu in 6th house :
1) dog in the skin of lion
2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.
3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//
My vedic views to understand it :
A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.
B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.
For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.
We see that Dogs are most faithful also.
Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.
C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.
We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?
Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).
D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.
Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily.
Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.
Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.
He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.
Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.
This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc
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Thanking you,
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Dear Goelji,
Regards
Kulbir Bains
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Dear Kulbir bhai,
// But i couldn't understand as to how mars is karak of 6th house.//
When you will see the significance of 6th house, it mainly indicate fights and diseases.
Therefore , Mars is primary karak and Saturn is secondary karak is as per principles of vedic astrology which has been very well incorporated by Panditji at all appropriate places.
I have seen that at many instance Panditji has explained this House Karak and Planets (sambhand) relationship concept in a very effective, practical and unique way, which is also the foundation base concept of LK astrology.
Thanking you,
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Mobile. +91 8003004666.
Dear Kulbhir brother, Chetanji and all,
Namaskar,
//Ketu in 6th house :
1) dog in the skin of lion
2)kutta kya jaane halwe ka swad ya kutte ko ghee hazam nahin hota.
3) jaisa munh waisi chapped.//
My vedic views to understand it :
A)Ketu is the karak for 6th sense, and all we know that Dogs have highest 6th sense naturally.
B)Ketu one extra leg (in three legs ) is of Jupiter, which means that Ketu is the BLIND followers of Jupiter, it walks as jupiter (Guru) directs him. We know that Ketu does not have head so works blindly based on extra sensory sense, 6th sense mainly is 'intuition', is the matter of 'heart chakra' normally.
For example, 'Jehadis' who are terrorist in name of religion. They blindly follow Guru's direction.
We see that Dogs are most faithful also.
Hence Dogs is represent \ karak of Ketu is rightly said by Panditji.
C)Now Karak of 6th house is majorly Mars for fights and Mercury due to Kalpurush lord.
We see that here Ketu is neecha\debilitated in Kalpurush chart, what does it mean ?
Simple Ketu's 6th sense of perception and spirituality is lost, he gets totally confused in the world of greediness (mercury).
D)Here he gets association with Mars (karak of 6H), prime enemy of mercury.
Mars is anger, mar + ketu is pisach dosha, extreme anger which cannot be controlled easily.
Now ultimately Ketu in this house the persons gets confused over dharma , cannot understand what is right or wrong, hence reacts in a very angry and frustrating manner.
Therefore Pandit says that dog in the skin of lion.
He does not know 'halwa ke swad' simply means that material desires is not suited to him and he rejects it in a frustrating \ roaring way, as he himself is fixed in it and wants to come out of it.
Therefore Panditji says to wear a gold ring, to control mercurial waving nature through gold means pure thoughts.
This will improve the diplomacy tendency (which is lost), hence improve in relation especially with Mother's family, Mamas , Mausis, sister directly and overall improve in social behavior which will help to win over enemies, etc
------------ --------- -
Thanking you,
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Dear Goelji,
A very good explanation. Indeed praiseworthy.
But i couldn't understand as to how mars is karak of 6th house.Regards
Kulbir Bains
-------------.
Dear Kulbir bhai,
// But i couldn't understand as to how mars is karak of 6th house.//
When you will see the significance of 6th house, it mainly indicate fights and diseases.
Therefore , Mars is primary karak and Saturn is secondary karak is as per principles of vedic astrology which has been very well incorporated by Panditji at all appropriate places.
I have seen that at many instance Panditji has explained this House Karak and Planets (sambhand) relationship concept in a very effective, practical and unique way, which is also the foundation base concept of LK astrology.
Thanking you,
Regards,
Vijay Goel
Mobile. +91 8003004666.
Saturday, March 28, 2009
Aspects in Lal-kitab and Tajik links.
Dear Kulbir Bhai,
The aspect in Jaimini system does not have any connection with LK.
In my view aspects in Tajik system matches with Lal-Kitab to some extent.
In Tajik system : Reference Tajik Nilkanthi chapter 2nd sloke 9-13 (Dristi phal adhaya)
1) Any planet aspects 5,9 (trines) from other planet is called friendly aspect (Pratyaksh sneh dristi) and Lal-kitab also says similar aspect which is 1-5 and 9-1.
2) Any planet aspects 3,11 from other planet is called secret friendly aspect (Gupt sneh dristi).
Whereas in LK 11-1, 1-3 is called 'Achanak chot'. Here 'chot' means wounded is like a Heart Break. (It means that some secret friendly relation was there.)
3) Any planet aspect 1,7 from other planet is called direct enemy aspect (Prayaksh Ver dirsti)
but in Lal-kitab this aspect is not mentioned.
4) Any planet aspect 4,10 from other planet is Secret enemy aspect (Gupt ver dristi).
In LK 1-4, 10-1 is termed as Dhoka dristi. 'Cheating' is always done by secret enemy, something like 'Vibhisan' to 'Ravan' in Ramayan.
5) Other aspect like 2,12,6,8, is called 'Udhasin' or NO aspect in Tajik, here it means that planets will have no affairs, to the other planets in 2,12,6,8 aspect.
It can have two meaning :
a) does not want to help (6,8) due to serious difference in thoughts and action.
b) not in position to help as they themself are dependent (2,12).
Whereas in LK 1-8, 6-1 is called 'Takrav ki dristi'', means that these planet will bring obstacles or inimical to each other.
Both LK and Tajik system is based on yearly progression concept but in different way.
Traditional aspect of planets are same in LK.
Jaimini Rasi dristi (sign aspect) is not at all touched in LK, so i am not discussing here.
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Jyotish Visharad (ICAS)
Jaipur
Mob. 9214502239.
Vijay ji,
thanx for sharing and explaining so lucidly. I think that on
record, it is the first time that someone has written a comparitive
note on these 2 systems. Plz continue with such like write ups in
future also.
With respect and regards.
Kulbir.
dated 3rd feb 2009
no. 3434
The aspect in Jaimini system does not have any connection with LK.
In my view aspects in Tajik system matches with Lal-Kitab to some extent.
In Tajik system : Reference Tajik Nilkanthi chapter 2nd sloke 9-13 (Dristi phal adhaya)
1) Any planet aspects 5,9 (trines) from other planet is called friendly aspect (Pratyaksh sneh dristi) and Lal-kitab also says similar aspect which is 1-5 and 9-1.
2) Any planet aspects 3,11 from other planet is called secret friendly aspect (Gupt sneh dristi).
Whereas in LK 11-1, 1-3 is called 'Achanak chot'. Here 'chot' means wounded is like a Heart Break. (It means that some secret friendly relation was there.)
3) Any planet aspect 1,7 from other planet is called direct enemy aspect (Prayaksh Ver dirsti)
but in Lal-kitab this aspect is not mentioned.
4) Any planet aspect 4,10 from other planet is Secret enemy aspect (Gupt ver dristi).
In LK 1-4, 10-1 is termed as Dhoka dristi. 'Cheating' is always done by secret enemy, something like 'Vibhisan' to 'Ravan' in Ramayan.
5) Other aspect like 2,12,6,8, is called 'Udhasin' or NO aspect in Tajik, here it means that planets will have no affairs, to the other planets in 2,12,6,8 aspect.
It can have two meaning :
a) does not want to help (6,8) due to serious difference in thoughts and action.
b) not in position to help as they themself are dependent (2,12).
Whereas in LK 1-8, 6-1 is called 'Takrav ki dristi'', means that these planet will bring obstacles or inimical to each other.
Both LK and Tajik system is based on yearly progression concept but in different way.
Traditional aspect of planets are same in LK.
Jaimini Rasi dristi (sign aspect) is not at all touched in LK, so i am not discussing here.
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
Jyotish Visharad (ICAS)
Jaipur
Mob. 9214502239.
Vijay ji,
thanx for sharing and explaining so lucidly. I think that on
record, it is the first time that someone has written a comparitive
note on these 2 systems. Plz continue with such like write ups in
future also.
With respect and regards.
Kulbir.
dated 3rd feb 2009
no. 3434
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