Dear Members,
Hare Rama Krsna,
घर ६वें पाताल में बैठे, केतु , बुध इक्ट्ठे है.
दुश्मन गो वह बाहम होते, इस जा वह नहीं लड़ते है.
House no 6 is Underground \ basement, ketu and mercury both sits together here.
केतु लड़का तो बुध है लड़की, दुम कुत्ते की साथी है.
रिश्तेदार हों मात-पिता के, अक्ल सफर खुद खाकी है.
बुध सेवा नहीं शुक्कर करता, केतु भी धोका देता है.
[Nirmalji] Even they are friends of Venus,mercury & ketu will not help Venus in this house. Venus will be bereft of progeny & sex.
अकेले-अकेले ही दोनों उम्दा, मिल कर चेहरा बनता है.
आकार चेहरे का गर बुध से हो, खूबसूरत हो केतु से.
नौ हो ग्रह पाताल में होते, देखते तरफ हों सब ही के.
This line needs more explanation.
Here exalted planet mercury and rahu will never give weak results neither they will make 1,4,7,10 H or 2H malefic.
[Nirmalji] This line refers to a special nature of the planets posited in House no 6. The planet in this house will effect the planet in 1-4-7-10 (Bund muthi ke khane)
The meaning of this line will become clear after we take up 1952 book.
फूलना-फलना, कद कदामत, तनासुब हथेली ऊँगली की.
खटाई व गोबर या हो सच्ची नेकी, या रफ़्तार गुफ्तार हो केतु की.
नाना-नानी या मामू उसके, हमदर्दी फोकी बुध की है.
इर्द गिर्द वह मकान का होवे, जायका, पटठे, सब्जी है.
बर्ताव होवे या हो साहूकारा, पेशानी चेहरा होती है.
तरफ शुमाल या हो फोका पानी, फूल सगंध्या होती है.
Direction is North or mirage of water and scented flowers.
आकार, परिंदे, हाथ के नाख़ून, सुख औलाद का होता है
I am only giving a literal translation:
Bhakyan (Vak or speech) Bhau (Bhav or Emotion) Apar (Bina Anth or Unlimited).
In this specific case it might mean all possible manners or kinds of speech connected to describing all possible emotions that exist in society & in describing all possible streams of knowledge. The connection to the planet Mercury & significations of Mercury is possibly described here. The 6th house is linked to Mercury as is well known.
This phrase is used, as per my limited knowledge, in the 4th Stanza of the Japuji Sahib which was channeled by Guru Nanak. The original phrase there is:
Sacha Sahib Sache Nain, Bhakyan Bhau Apar.
Sacha (truth which also means eternal) Sahib (master) Sache (true or eternal) Nain (Name), Bhakyan (reciting) Bhau (with emotion of love) Apar (unlimited).
In other words, the Name of the Lord, who is also truth personified or eternal, is true or eternal, so recite his name with unlimited love & without counting.
केतु की चीजे पर केतु हो मंदा, पर मंदा न हो दूसरों पर.
बुध भी वा गर साथी होवे, खुद मंदा बुरा दूसरों पर.
उम्र मंदी इस ग्रह की होवे, घर ६वें आ बैठी जो.
[Nirmalji] Planet which is posited in 6th house will give bad result during its age.
लाख उपाओ करें न टलदा, ग्रह फल लिखा जिस को हो.
फल औलाद का शुक्कर रद्दी, पर रद्दी न दौलत हो.
गुरु, सूरज से कोई दूजे, शुक्कर का फल १२ हो.
बुध, केतु और शुक्कर टेवे, कही भी इसके बैठे हो.
फल वैसे ही घर ६वें के, इस टेवे में होते है.
उम्र मंदी ग्रह खुद वह होगा घर ६ वे आ बैठे जो.
बैठे हुए ग्रह की अपनी ग्रह चाली उम्र और खुद ग्रह मुतअल्लिका की जाती अश्या का असर.
लाख उपाओं करे न टलता ग्रह फल लिखा जिसको हो.
Lākha upā'ōṁ karē na ṭalatā graha phala likhā jisakō hō.
अकेला बैठा या हो मुश्तरका बंद मुट्टी के खानों में.
Akēlā baiṭhā yā hō muśtarakā banda muṭṭī kē khānōṁ mēṁ.
The explanation of above line as provided is
Saturn in 6H reversely aspect on 2H, so when Sun or Moon is in 2H, than if Mars is placed in 4H than it will be not Mars Badh.
९ ही ग्रह पाताल में बैठे देखा करे उन तरफो में.
9 Hī graha pātāla mēṁ baiṭhē dēkhā karē una taraphō mēṁ
१०-५ वे का दुश्मन जहरी हुक्म राहू का पाता हो.
10-5 Vē kā duśmana jaharī hukma rāhū kā pātā hō.
साथ मगर २-८ दृष्टी फैसला ६ का होता हो.
Sātha magara 2-8 dr̥ṣṭī phaisalā 6 kā hōtā
10-5 House position indicate poisonous relationship (Takrao Dristi), comes under the guidance of Rahu.
But if 2-8 aspect is associated than planet in 6H will finally guide the results.
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Hare Rama Krsna,
I am posting commentary on the 6H in Lal kitab, in continuation of the series of LK- Pakka ghar, LK-42, page 22.
घर ६वें पाताल में बैठे, केतु , बुध इक्ट्ठे है.
दुश्मन गो वह बाहम होते, इस जा वह नहीं लड़ते है.
House no 6 is Underground \ basement, ketu and mercury both sits together here.
enemies in this house does not fight each other. (mercury and ketu are enemy)
केतु लड़का तो बुध है लड़की, दुम कुत्ते की साथी है.
ketu is boy and mercury is girl, dog is ketu and it's tail is mercury.
रिश्तेदार हों मात-पिता के, अक्ल सफर खुद खाकी है.
Relative of mother and father, intelligence, travel and dryness.
बुध सेवा नहीं शुक्कर करता, केतु भी धोका देता है.
Mercury does not help, Venus cares, even ketu cheats here.
[Nirmalji] Even they are friends of Venus,mercury & ketu will not help Venus in this house. Venus will be bereft of progeny & sex.
अकेले-अकेले ही दोनों उम्दा, मिल कर चेहरा बनता है.
Both individually gives positive results, both simultaneously makes the face of the person.
आकार चेहरे का गर बुध से हो, खूबसूरत हो केतु से.
Shape of face is given by mercury, attraction and beauty is given by ketu.
नौ हो ग्रह पाताल में होते, देखते तरफ हों सब ही के.
This line needs more explanation.
Here exalted planet mercury and rahu will never give weak results neither they will make 1,4,7,10 H or 2H malefic.
[Nirmalji] This line refers to a special nature of the planets posited in House no 6. The planet in this house will effect the planet in 1-4-7-10 (Bund muthi ke khane)
The meaning of this line will become clear after we take up 1952 book.
फूलना-फलना, कद कदामत, तनासुब हथेली ऊँगली की.
Prosperity and health, height and tallness, fore portion of fingers.
Sour (tamarind), cow-dung or true help, or speed and words belongs to ketu.
नाना-नानी या मामू उसके, हमदर्दी फोकी बुध की है.
Maternal grandparents or uncles, false sympathy is of mercury.
इर्द गिर्द वह मकान का होवे, जायका, पटठे, सब्जी है.
Nearby of house, taste, pathe, vegetables.
[Nirmalji]
ird gird refers the space around the house .
zayqa , pathe, sabzi are seperate words
Zayqa - Means taste(power of taste),
Pathe means the nerves related to brain systems
Sabzi- Vegetables.
[Nirmalji]
ird gird refers the space around the house .
zayqa , pathe, sabzi are seperate words
Zayqa - Means taste(power of taste),
Pathe means the nerves related to brain systems
Sabzi- Vegetables.
In Punjabi, Pathe is called the green feed/fodder given to cattle. But in lalkitab it is referred as the nerveous system(Nadiyan) , Mercury is also the significator of nerves.
बर्ताव होवे या हो साहूकारा, पेशानी चेहरा होती है.
behaviour or honestiness, forehead of face.
तरफ शुमाल या हो फोका पानी, फूल सगंध्या होती है.
Direction is North or mirage of water and scented flowers.
आकार, परिंदे, हाथ के नाख़ून, सुख औलाद का होता है
shapes, birds, nails of fingers, happiness from children.
.
भाख्या भाओ अपार हो दुनिया, नक्कारा खल्क भी होता है.Commitment from society, subdued person of society.
This line needs more explanation.
[Nirmalji]
In my opinion it refer to one's " power of speech" in public
"Naqara Khalaq bhee hota hai
Naqara means Nagaada (a sound from a special type of drum) khalaq means
srishti. In my opinion it refers to the Message of God (Triloki ) or numen.
Normally in local dialact in punjab 'Bhakya' also means 'Bachan' (Not vachan) I don't know how to express it in English or hindi.
[Nirmalji]
In my opinion it refer to one's " power of speech" in public
"Naqara Khalaq bhee hota hai
Naqara means Nagaada (a sound from a special type of drum) khalaq means
srishti. In my opinion it refers to the Message of God (Triloki ) or numen.
Normally in local dialact in punjab 'Bhakya' also means 'Bachan' (Not vachan) I don't know how to express it in English or hindi.
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[Harinderji]
[Harinderji]
I am only giving a literal translation:
Bhakyan (Vak or speech) Bhau (Bhav or Emotion) Apar (Bina Anth or Unlimited).
In this specific case it might mean all possible manners or kinds of speech connected to describing all possible emotions that exist in society & in describing all possible streams of knowledge. The connection to the planet Mercury & significations of Mercury is possibly described here. The 6th house is linked to Mercury as is well known.
This phrase is used, as per my limited knowledge, in the 4th Stanza of the Japuji Sahib which was channeled by Guru Nanak. The original phrase there is:
Sacha Sahib Sache Nain, Bhakyan Bhau Apar.
Sacha (truth which also means eternal) Sahib (master) Sache (true or eternal) Nain (Name), Bhakyan (reciting) Bhau (with emotion of love) Apar (unlimited).
In other words, the Name of the Lord, who is also truth personified or eternal, is true or eternal, so recite his name with unlimited love & without counting.
केतु की चीजे पर केतु हो मंदा, पर मंदा न हो दूसरों पर.
On the item of ketu it will be malefic, but does not bring malefic results on others.
बुध भी वा गर साथी होवे, खुद मंदा बुरा दूसरों पर.
Mercury is with some planet, than itself will be weak and other will also become malefic.
उम्र मंदी इस ग्रह की होवे, घर ६वें आ बैठी जो.
Age of planet is destroyed which comes in 6H.
[Nirmalji] Planet which is posited in 6th house will give bad result during its age.
लाख उपाओ करें न टलदा, ग्रह फल लिखा जिस को हो.
Doing million remedies of graha phal planet, will not work. The person has to face it.
Please note : Here except Sun, Jupiter and Moon all are of graha phal.
Please note : Here except Sun, Jupiter and Moon all are of graha phal.
फल औलाद का शुक्कर रद्दी, पर रद्दी न दौलत हो.
गुरु, सूरज से कोई दूजे, शुक्कर का फल १२ हो.
Fruits of child will be destroyed if venus is here, but finance will remain intact.
If sun + jupiter in 2H, results of venus will like 12H.
बुध, केतु और शुक्कर टेवे, कही भी इसके बैठे हो.
फल वैसे ही घर ६वें के, इस टेवे में होते है.
Mercury, ketu and venus anywhere in the chart, results of 6H will be like that.
Thankyou
Regards
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
www.IndianAstroVedic.com
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Further Text from Lal Kitab -1952, page 69-70.
Dūjē baiṭhē kī pahalī avasthā asara 6 para hōtā hō
.
The good results of 2H will be the combine effect with 6H.
Thankyou
Regards
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
www.IndianAstroVedic.com
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Further Text from Lal Kitab -1952, page 69-70.
पाताल खाली घर जब तक रहता नेक असर कुल देता हो.
Pātāla khālī ghara jaba taka rahatā nēka asara kula dētā hō.
दूजे बैठे की पहली अवस्था असर ६ पर होता हो.Pātāla khālī ghara jaba taka rahatā nēka asara kula dētā hō.
If 6th house is empty, than it is a good sign.
Further explained that when 6H is empty, planets 2H and 12H will give results, if 2H has good planets and 12H also have favorable planets that it will be advisable to activate 6H (having no planets).
It will best to help maternal brother's family (मामू खानदान ) or daughters of own sister.(Here mercury is activated.) This will help to such a extent that planet in 6H will act as a switch of electricity of machines, and quick results of 2H and 12H will be seen.
Dūjē baiṭhē kī pahalī avasthā asara 6 para hōtā hō
.
The good results of 2H will be the combine effect with 6H.
बैठे हुए ग्रह की अपनी ग्रह चाली उम्र और खुद ग्रह मुतअल्लिका की जाती अश्या का असर.
Umra mandī graha khuda vaha hōgā ghara 6 vē ā baiṭhē jō.
Baiṭhē hu'ē graha kī apanī graha cālī umra aura khuda graha muta'allikā kī jātī aśyā kā asara.
When the age of planet placed in 6H, the items related to that planet suffers.
लाख उपाओं करे न टलता ग्रह फल लिखा जिसको हो.
Lākha upā'ōṁ karē na ṭalatā graha phala likhā jisakō hō.
Here Sun, Jupiter and moon are of Rasi phal and all other planets will be of Grah phal, Mercury and Ketu will be malefic till there own age or as per the age of the planet sitting in 8H.
Or malefic effect of planet in 6H can goes to that house where Mercury, Ketu or Venus is sitting.
अकेला बैठा या हो मुश्तरका बंद मुट्टी के खानों में.
Akēlā baiṭhā yā hō muśtarakā banda muṭṭī kē khānōṁ mēṁ.
The explanation of above line as provided is
Saturn in 6H reversely aspect on 2H, so when Sun or Moon is in 2H, than if Mars is placed in 4H than it will be not Mars Badh.
९ ही ग्रह पाताल में बैठे देखा करे उन तरफो में.
9 Hī graha pātāla mēṁ baiṭhē dēkhā karē una taraphō mēṁ
Exalted planets of 6H ie Mercury , Rahu will be never malefic in quadrant houses (1,4,7,10) nor it will give malefic results to 2H.
१०-५ वे का दुश्मन जहरी हुक्म राहू का पाता हो.
10-5 Vē kā duśmana jaharī hukma rāhū kā pātā hō.
साथ मगर २-८ दृष्टी फैसला ६ का होता हो.
Sātha magara 2-8 dr̥ṣṭī phaisalā 6 kā hōtā
10-5 House position indicate poisonous relationship (Takrao Dristi), comes under the guidance of Rahu.
But if 2-8 aspect is associated than planet in 6H will finally guide the results.
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Thankyou
Regards
Vijay Goel
Jaipur.
Vedic astrologer & Vastu Consultant.
www.IndianAstroVedic.com
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